http://www.spamhaus.org/organization/statement.lasso?ref=7

So, according to Spamhaus, nic.at knows this is criminal activity and knows all the domains are paid for with stolen credit cards, yet does nothing… unbeleivable idiocy by nic.at

that’s what I meant by saying

“-) nic.at certainly knows what it’s doing.”

thing is: if you provide mail-services for normal users you have to use them to life comfortable enough ..

i for my part don’t use any dnsbl – simply because of that fact mentioned above. i give the chance to filter my private stuff to someone who i don’t even know.

-) it’s not o.k. from spamhaus to blackmail anyone
-) as a matter of fact that’s really bad for the DNSBLs reputation
-) nic.at certainly knows what it’s doing.

@wnagele: which laws apply to a british institution doing business in the internet. if you have to keep up with all the laws regarding NICs while running a DNSBL, you won’t even start – since you’ll think that your job is to provide a vaccine for postmasters and not to deal with legal issues. There is no court or anything, there shall be as little regulation as possible. If you do not like ones opinion or service don’t use it/listen to him.

Me – for myself – finds it very convenient rejecting – in my opinion – unlegitimate traffic. If you take someones right doing so, or having an opinion on whose traffic is legitimate, we would face dark times my friend.
At the end of the day a DNSBL is just an entity you ask for an opinion if you agree with their policy.

we’ve a law system that is lame or at least slow, not people who stick to it. that is absolutely okay. if we don’t stick to the law – why should spammers do? self justice anyone? is spamhaus the new court for this issues? they’ve shown that they’re not even a bit neutral in the past.

sorry, just because you’re bugged about spam you shouldn’t think that the end justifies the means.

http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL55483

“This SBL listing is a pointer for abuse purposes, to draw attention to
criminal phishing domains registered *directly* at Nic.at and for
which Nic.at alone is directly responsible. This listing however does
not block any email as it is for the IP address “0/32″ (which of course
does not exist on any Nic.at server).”

which explains a lot .. shame on nic.at not knowing about their mx IP addresses (?)

ok in compressed form:

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;nic.at. IN MX

;; ANSWER SECTION:
nic.at. 86400 IN MX 100 nicmx1.univie.ac.at.
nic.at. 86400 IN MX 200 nicmx2.univie.ac.at.

lynix@fuckup:~$ host nicmx1.univie.ac.at
nicmx1.univie.ac.at has address 131.130.3.106
lynix@fuckup:~$ host nicmx2.univie.ac.at
nicmx2.univie.ac.at has address 131.130.3.105
lynix@fuckup:~$ host 106.3.130.131.zen.spamhaus.org
Host 106.3.130.131.zen.spamhaus.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
lynix@fuckup:~$ host 105.3.130.131.zen.spamhaus.org
Host 105.3.130.131.zen.spamhaus.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

..

I find it morally totally ok from spamhaus.org – why not? someone buging you – eat that registry, your business terms and conditions suck. Fighting this shit has to be done in an aggressive way. ..

btw.: has nic.at changed their MX RRs? for me it looks totally ok:

lynix@fuckup:~$ dig -t MX nic.at

; > DiG 9.3.1 > -t MX nic.at
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER